Oh, wow. I’m random.: nikosnature: Oh, wow. I’m random.: Dear Anti Choicers who say “Just…
Oh, wow. I’m random.: Dear Anti Choicers who say “Just because it’s not sentient doesn’t mean it’s not a person! You wouldn’t kill a person in…
USE LOGIC, PLEASE.
If a person is in a vegetative state and the next of kin wants them taken off of life support, that is their legal right, right? YES.
A fetus’ next of kin is the pregnant person carrying it.
That person has every right to pull the plug.
And before you start in on the “BUT THE…
Fair, but a vegetative state is usually permanent. Pregnancy usually is not. Would you kill a person in a coma if you knew he was going to wake up in a couple months?
If he/she needed to be hooked up to my body in order to survive absolutely. If you think that a pregnant person should be obligated to remain pregnant simply to be a fetus’ life support system you are not only giving the fetus rights that are equal to the pregnant person’s, you’re giving them more rights.
If I needed a kidney and you happened to be a match, I couldn’t legally force you to hand yours over. Nor could I force you to give me your blood, bone marrow, tissue, nothing. Your body is yours. My body is mine. The fetus has its own body, but if it is in someone else’s body they have the right to remove it.
This is another example of the mandated organ donor fallacy. Here are my favorite arguments against this fallacy:
a. A pregnancy is only 9 months. Organ donation is for life. There is an inequality between the demands of the two acts.
b. Despite what the prochoice lobby would like you to think, women do not find themselves pregnant, they do not randomly conceive. Women make specific and deliberate choices which get them pregnant. If you are of a certain faith persuasion, throughout all of history there has been one virgin birth, and even then, Mary made a very deliberate choice in receiving her child. If you were asked to give a kidney to some stranger and you had nothing to do with the reason why he needed a kidney, you do not have a legal obligation to give him a kidney. However, when you conceive a child, it is usually because YOU chose to have sex (barring the possibility of rape,) with full knowledge of the possible consequences.
c. There is a big difference between forcing someone to sacrifice for someone who is dying, (which may be a moral, but not a legal imperative,) and passing laws which ‘force’ people to abstain from killing others. Forced organ donations are wrong because they don’t give you the freedom of choosing whether to save someone’s life or not, while abolishing abortion is necessary for the same reasons laws preventing murder are necessary. There is a difference between not swimming out into the ocean to save someone, vs. holding their head under water.
It’s cute how you think you’re going to be able to change my mind about this, really. Let’s go point by point, mmkay?
1) Blood and bone marrow both take less than 9 moths to fully regenerate. Your liver will regenerate fully as long as 25% of it remains. Yet none of these things are compulsory, even though they could save thousands of lives.
2) Pregnancy is not 9 months, it’s 10. And the effects it has on the body don’t go away. A person’s body will never be the same as it was before they were pregnant. 3) Women do not make choices to become pregnant unless they want to be pregnant. Are you going to sit here and pretend that rape doesn’t happen? And sex does not automatically lead to pregnancy, so consent to sex isn’t consent to pregnancy. That’s like saying consent to swimming is consent to drowning.
4) Thanks to the pathetic state of sex education in this country, not everyone realizes that sex leads to pregnancy! A lot of people think that as long as they only have sex during specific times during their menstrual cycle they will not get pregnant. A lot of young men believe that pulling out works 100% of the time. Not everyone knows.
5) Actually if you knew anything about religion you would know that Mary was also the product of a virgin birth, Saint Anne was said to be a virgin mother throughout various times in history.
6) Either way, I don’t subscribe to an organized religion, so kindly keep your rosaries off of my ovaries.
7) When they find a way to let these fetuses come to term in test tubes that’s wonderful. Until then pregnant people have every right to remove from their body what they don’t want in it.